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By now it’s all over the internet that Charles Hamilton is crediting Jay Dilla as an Executive Producer on his upcoming debut album. Myself and various others were taken back by such a bold move and commented on it on everyone’s favorite social networking site. Charles had issue with our comments and requested people’s phone numbers to contact them personally. I gave him mine.

IT SHOULD ALSO BE NOTED THAT AFTER THIS CONVERSATION, I WAS INFORMED THAT THE J DILLA FOUNDATION HAS NOT EXISTED FOR SOME TIME.

STREAMING AUDIO

Whattup Sweeney.

Who’s this?

Charles Hamilton, what’s the hate?

It’s not hate. I just think you’re kind of a dweeb.

Ok, break down what your issue is with me so we can come to a mutual agreement to where you don’t have to say anything to me or support my music and you can go about living your life.

I only say anything about you in a public forum when I feel it’s something ridiculous like crediting Dilla as an executive producer of your album.

Do you know my relationship with Ma Dukes?

No I don’t.

If you don’t know my relationship with Ma Dukes, proceeds from my album are going towards the J Dilla Music Foundation, which is basically a temple. My issue is, if you don’t know all the details of it and simply are putting out negativity about me and what it is I’m doing, especially since I actually have a very good relationship with Phat Kat and everybody else involved, especially since I was in the studio with Pete Rock when he was mastering the Jay $tay Paid album. Do you really want to put such negative energy out there on a public forum?

Listen, that still doesn’t mean the man did anything for your album–

The thing is —

Let me talk. I let you talk, now let me talk. It’s cool that you’re giving proceeds from the album, I’ll admit that, I don’t have any problem with that. You crediting him as an executive producer of your album when you never met him is just foolish.

How do you know I never met him?

Fine. When you never had a working relationship with him, which I know you didn’t because I think I would have heard about that.

Really?

Yes.

What do you know about James Yancey personally?

What do you want me to say? I never met him personally–

If you don’t know James Yancey, his little brother or his mother the way I know them, then you can’t put any negativity out there. That’s slander. Now I’m not taking a legal approach, I’m approaching you man to man–

That’s not slander. You have no basis to take a legal approach, that’s ridiculous of you to say that.

Yo…just deal with the fact that you don’t know a large percentage of the information. You don’t want to buy the album, don’t buy the album

I’m not going to buy the album.

By the way, don’t make this a bigger issue than it already is.

How am I making it a bigger issue?

By how you talking.

All I’m saying, I’m not saying you don’t have a relationship with the family–

If I’m putting him as an executive producer, and executive producer gets a percentage of the album, what are you so mad at?

I’m not mad. I think it’s laughable that you’re crediting someone who you never had a working relationship with, and yes I’m going to make that assumption, as an executive producer on your album. Outside of you supposedly giving proceeds of the album to the J Dilla foundation, I think this is a publicity stunt, in some way, shape or form.

Are you upset that I’m giving money to the foundation and that could possibly get publicity?

Not at all. I’m not upset at anything, I’m laughing at it. I laughed when I first saw it. I’m not upset.

In the heading of your email you said ‘Hate.’

Yeah, it was a tounge-in-cheek comment. In your twitter you posted, ‘any haters email me your number,’ so I was like, ok, if this is what you’re calling it, then I guess this is going to be what he classifies as hate.

Nah, but see you didn’t ask a question, you simply stated what you thought was a fact. So what I’m trying to tell you is, upon asking Ma Dukes, or Illa J, or even his daughter, you don’t know how close to the family I am. The Hamilton family and the Yancey family have a very good relationship, so I just want you to be clear on that. The next time you want to make a statement or anything about me, do realize that I’m the type of person that will ask for your number and call you.

That’s fine. Save my number. Call me anytime. Listen, I’m not taking anything out of pocket besides the fact that I think it’s ridiculous that you’re crediting him as an executive producer. You don’t have to credit him as an executive producer to donate proceeds of the album to the foundation, that’s just how you’re choosing to go about it.

Hello?

Hello?



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slopfunkdust
Jun 8, 2009 17:15

ROFLMAO!!!

Garbage Bars
Jun 8, 2009 17:18

That dude spits garbage bars, and he spits Garbage explanations over the phone. Fuck that dude. He was like 16 when Dilla passed. Lying about that shit is just disrespectful.

What a herb.

I hope Ma Dukes punches him in the face, too.

Dart_Adams
Jun 8, 2009 17:25

Yeah, when I first heard about Charles Hamilton doing this I said to myself “Why doesn’t he just DONATE monies from his album directly to Ma Dukes and/or the J Dilla Foundation rather than engage in this type of instant facepalm inducing fuckery?”. I then berated him mercilessly on Twitter and my own blog. What the hell is this idiot thinking? He doesn’t want a phone call from me. it’ll go like this:

CH: Hello?
DA: Dumbass! © Red Foreman
*Click!*
CH: Hello? Hello?

One.

J. Bizness
Jun 8, 2009 17:33

Entertaining and funny.

I would have loved to be on another line during this convo.

Che
Jun 8, 2009 17:55

Is Charles Hamilton the dumbest rapper ever? He’s about to get his ass kicked for sure

frqncy
Jun 8, 2009 18:15

wacksauce to the max.. this kid needs to get boxed in by ma dukes in the pink fedora << ain’t talking about his hat.

mel d cole
Jun 8, 2009 18:28

*blank stare*

Damn shame yo…damn fucking shame!

Magnus
Jun 8, 2009 18:37

Not only is he a trolling motherfucker, but this shit is disgraceful on so many levels. Pretending to be friends of a family so you can credit a late person to ultimately get more sales.

Nobody should buy this disrespectful, shameless fucks album.

Dee Phunk
Jun 8, 2009 19:31

I just left my diatribe on this nonsense over @ 2dopeboyz. This is just way too much stupidity for me in one day. It seriously is. I can’t wait for whatever ultra thirsty blogger is going to run up to him w/ a camera and mic for his rebuttal to all of this.

Jedi Nemesis
Jun 8, 2009 20:43

WOOOOOW.. I mean before, I gave the cat the benefit of the doubt. BUT NOW! HE’S PURITAN WHHHAAACKNESS!!

jose3030
Jun 8, 2009 21:01

I’m looking at Charles Hamilton like this right now fam:

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll171/andrew_123_456/madSonic-1.png

Bourgie, JD
Jun 8, 2009 21:05

How is he going to act so “above it all” about it and simultaneously go around asking folks for their number on some say it to my face ish? Other than some nebulous relationship with the family, there’s probably not one other person who can back up this producer BS. Yeah, sure. Dilla was passing off beats to Charles Hamilton.
In the meantime, since the foundation is defunct, he better check up on his “donation”!

VIDEOKINGnotwithstanding(fill in the blank)
Jun 8, 2009 21:42

Quite possibly he has surpassed 50 cent as the “Andy Koffman of rap”. Just roll with his punches don’t let them touch you or we could be doing his work for him. (no pun intended i think……..)

giftwho3
Jun 8, 2009 22:26

**DIESLOWCHUCK**

Kai
Jun 8, 2009 22:31

WHO???

Traestar
Jun 8, 2009 22:58

So what this means is that Charles Hamilton is a fraud?

Damn he really lost this year!

Cuntmatic
Jun 8, 2009 23:00

It’s been funny to see the guy get deservedly clowned for this, but it’s also pretty worrying that the he’d go to the extent of lying about his relationship with certain people he clearly doesn’t know to try and save himself.

It’s no coincidence that this prick only manages to gain attention of any real consequence for acting like a bitch, and not because of his music.

Fuck Charles Hamilton.

Lena
Jun 8, 2009 23:18

this mofo. smh.

Dre zilla
Jun 8, 2009 23:34

I’m so sick of this dude. Ever since this sonic fuck came around underground has been smelling like shit. This is a slap to the face of the Yancey family and hip hop in general. Fuck charles hamilton.

More Charles Hamilton Fucker
Jun 8, 2009 23:49

Joe
Jun 8, 2009 23:51

Ron Simmons voice: {{{{DAMN!!!}}}}

Hope dudes face gets beaten to a shade of pink similar to the gimmicky threads he wears. Someone knock him the fug out.

black disciple
Jun 9, 2009 0:38

charles! please go back to wherever u came from why does this guy keep embarrassing himself like this the guy is diggin his whole deeper and deeper in my opinion this guy is moving closer n closer to being stripped of having the title hip hop artist -stealing beats taking credit now slapping the name of one of the greatest on his album

Luigi-Bo 87
Jun 9, 2009 0:56

…. (facepalm x 1,000)

JayBreez
Jun 9, 2009 1:34

This is not even funny .. just sad ..

The Question Remains?
Jun 9, 2009 3:23

house niggas/niggers in the music industry would go to any length to get a name for themselves.
And this is one of those cases.

he’s the epitome of a duck ass rapper, along with the many other wack ass rappers in the commercial/mainstream today.

This dude needs to get some since some since slapped into him.

you can tell this dude is someone who doesn’t know the history and rules of this hip hop culture and music. Neither does the rest of these wack rappers that are out here today.

this type of hypocrisy could never happen back in the day.

one one more thing my black people.
stop the cooning, buffoonery, shucking and jiving for these crackers.

Lastly. fuck you fraudulent ass crackers/white people. fuck you house niggas.
stop exploiting and sucking the life out of this music and culture we call hip hop.

Fuck MTV. and a special Fuck you to BET as well. Fuck Viacom. Fuck CBS Corporation. Fuck Time Warner.

“We are not citizens of amerikkka. We are victims of amerikkka.”

White man is the devil.

Christianity is the devil’s religion.

The Question Remains?
Jun 9, 2009 3:41

(proofread version)

House niggas/niggers in the music industry would go to any length to get a name for themselves.
And this is one of those cases.

He’s the epitome of a duck ass rapper, along with the many other wack ass rappers in the commercial/mainstream today.

This dude needs to get some sense slapped into him.

You can tell this dude is someone who doesn’t know the history and rules of this hip hop culture and music. Neither does the rest of these wack rappers that are out here today.

this type of hypocrisy could never happen back in the day.

It’s sad that the listener, audience and consumer of rap music today can be easily be deceived, fooled and be mis-informed by these mother-fuckers who claim to be Hip-Hop and authentic. but you are not. I can see right through you fraudulent crackers and house niggas.

one one more thing my black people.
stop the cooning, buffoonery, shucking and jiving for these crackers.

Lastly. fuck you fraudulent ass crackers/white people. fuck you house niggas.
stop exploiting and sucking the life out of this music and culture we call hip hop.

Fuck MTV. and a special Fuck you to BET. Fuck Viacom. Fuck CBS Corporation. Fuck Time Warner.

“We are not citizens of Amerikkka. We are victims of Amerikkka.”

White man is the devil.

Christianity is the devil’s religion.

Dj Ill One
Jun 9, 2009 7:00

Shake my muthaphukin head. Didn`t Black Spade tell you about how the D ain`t feeling you after that shamefull “And Then They Played Dilla” fuckery? C`mon!

TACH
Jun 9, 2009 8:02

What a dick!

khal
Jun 9, 2009 8:26

hopefully guilty and phat kat find that nigga and get medieval on his ass. pause.

SP
Jun 9, 2009 8:39

As if the whole “Shinin” shit wasn’t enough… somebody please off this kid!!

mani
Jun 9, 2009 8:53

Heres the phone # of the hotel hes at… Ambrose in Santa Monica 310 315 1555 GET HIM

DBDR
Jun 9, 2009 12:34

And didn’t he post today that his album was going to be available as a free download b/c Sega was sponsoring it? So if I’m going along with his lame ass story–is Sega donating part of the money to Dilla’s family? Lies upon lies upon lies. He has told so many lies at this point that he doesn’t remember which one to cover for next.

Dj ILL One
Jun 9, 2009 13:20

Why won`t someone sit him down and tell him that what he`s dping is hurting his career? MC Lyte is his cousin,maybe she should do it. I hate to see someone finished before they start.

dirkflowinski
Jun 9, 2009 15:31

Charles Scamilton

thehoustongirl
Jun 9, 2009 15:38

Wow what a tangled web we weave!! Damn it be crucial in the Information Age. Look, I’m GLAD yall exposing this cat for the fraud he is [2009 is the year of the EXPOSED. If you aint got your shit right...look out!]

Anyway, yeah all on Dilla’s dick and such….what a shame! If your shit is good, why resort to such gimmicks [just like EMINEM with the MTV bullshit. So he let a man put his bare ass for publicity? for MTV? CORPORATE bullshit!!!! I'm not checking for Em's bitch ass either...the only White boys I jam is BEASTIE BOYS. PERIOD]

So SEGA is sponsoring this album? I don’t get that? The Dilla Foundation is no longer active. Hmmmm I smell a RAT

What the fuck ever….all these bullshit rappers need to vamoose.

THe ONLY thing I knew about this nigga was Mary J’s neice slapped him because he said something about her abortion. TRASH UPON TRASH. Fuck both of them.

STOP THE GOTDAMN TWITTER BULLSHIT ALSO. That damn shit is NOT as profound as everyone trying to hype it. That is another tool for people to spout their inane bullshit on. ALL ON BLAST. All these Social Networking sites…yall watch yall ass niggas…you know they SAVE everything you put on that bitch…pics, music, ANYTHING. You get these copy cat ass hoes [like Mr. Hamiltion here...beat thief! is he the male Beyonce of copying and stealing from muthafuckers and taking credit? fucking BITCH nigga]

Anywho, yall niggas stay up and watch what the fuck you put on the internet. Even as I learned from this post with the typed transcript AND audio provided. Once again, I’m not hating because we are exposing someone that is foul, but DAYUM….you see how easy that shit was? Now what if someone decided to go all out to record you and all that jazz. Just a thought. Don’ be so careless yall. SERIOUSLY.

All this “technology” isn’t GOOD technology. Fuck the Autotune [and Jay Z bitch ass, Kanye, T-Pain, Lil Wayne. NOW SINCE THEY MADE ENOUGH MONEY OFF THE SHIT, THEY WANNA DO AWAY WITH IT? I BET THEM HOES AINT BREAK ROGER TROUTMAN WITH A CHECK. bitch niggas everywhere!!!]

I kno I went off on a tanget but FUCK IT

-thehoustongirl

2009 – the year of the exposed. the year of the dumbasses too.

pwc
Jun 9, 2009 16:38

yo! the question remains? wtf is with this white man devil bullshit!? this about bitch ass CH, so yeah, fuck CH, long live DIlla…get your mind right.

The Question Remains?
Jun 9, 2009 17:19

Exactly what i said. White man is the devil.

Know your history.

The Question Remains?
Jun 9, 2009 17:31

@pwc

I’m not apologizing about the comment.

but, I agree with what you said. And I quote you.

“this about bitch ass CH, so yeah, fuck CH, long live DIlla…get your mind right.” (pwc)

MikeCee
Jun 9, 2009 19:37

This poor dude is straight up Bi Polar.

He should go make a duo album with Ron Artest.

out.

FWMJ
Jun 10, 2009 0:17

man, i like white people. *shrug*

em2wice
Jun 10, 2009 1:56

Chuck Sonic needs help….therapy even. So someone refer him to Dr. Footinyazz. STAT. Before them Detroit Boys get to ‘em.

king
Jun 10, 2009 9:28

I’m with frank, I like every color that GOD created, Humans are great!

Hate is the Devil

GOD is LOVE!!!!!

CH is weak for all that stuff he been doing.

kg
Jun 10, 2009 11:17

UPDATE: CHARLES HAS TAKEN DILLA OFF AS EXECUTIVE PRODUCER! SOURCE: XXL MAG

Aspect1
Jun 10, 2009 11:54

wow…after all this…dude has the ability to continue to be reckless..the only negative i see with all of this is that all of this connected with dillas name.dila earned and created a rite of legendary status so for someone so shallow and absent minded to not know the floodgates would open with the bullshit he’s pulling is completey mind boggling to me….sonic is an idiot..but now hes basically asked to be murdered or at least he will be targeted for death by many in the industry because of this..only the twitter world has spoken on this from my knowledge..a few myspacers ect…..but id like to see what cats like busta and ect have to say about this..another note…that white people are the devil statement is sooo far off…last i checked charles hamilton was a black man…openly violating another black mans legacy…so where does the “white devil”theory come into play?..houseshoes is as white as snow and goes to the wall for dilla..you sound like a white racist that thinks black all should die..stop being racist and ignorant(the question remains). and guide society in general to a more relevant place homie…you probably the same kinda person that thinks black people CANT be racist…pwc much respect…we all contribute…im black as coal btw !…..break your segas people PEACE!

Damien of KO
Jun 10, 2009 14:36

Marvin Gaye and James Brown are co-execs on my next project. Tryna get Isaac hayes to produce a couple of tracks.

VIDEOKINGnotwithstanding(fill in the blank)
Jun 10, 2009 16:54

@Damien don’t forget to have Bernie Mac do the interludes

The Question Remains?
Jun 10, 2009 23:15

@ Aspect1

As for as the music and entertainment industry is concerned. That ‘white man is the devil’ comment was directed towards white owned record companies, corporate america, television and radio.

And also those who continue to exploit this music and culture, along with them, like these record companies and corporations, who really don’t give a fuck about it, are just in it for their own gain and benefit. which includes these black executives, a&r’s, sell outs and house n****.

Also, fraudulent individuals who claim to be Hip-Hop and authentic when they are not.
All of those who I mentioned are the reasons why this culture and music is in a fucked up state that it’s in right now. I can expand on it and point out certain aspects and individuals, but I’ll be here all day doing so.

As far as this sonic character goes. Who would allow someone to credit a person as an executive producer on their garbage debut upcoming album and you never knew the guy or had any prior encounters with or a working relationship with before.

Dilla been gone for a couple years now. How do you credit someone as an executive producer on your garbage album who has passed away. How is that possible.

Who let’s this this type of hypocrisy go on. You tell me

As I said before on a prior post on this. People in the music industry today would go to any length to get a name for themselves. And this is one of those cases.

I also want to answer back to you on this statement you made towards me. And I quote you.

“that white people are the devil statement is sooo far off…last i checked charles hamilton was a black man…openly violating another black mans legacy…so where does the “white devil”theory come into play?..houseshoes is as white as snow and goes to the wall for dilla..you sound like a white racist that thinks black all should die..stop being racist and ignorant(the question remains). and guide society in general to a more relevant place homie…you probably the same kinda person that thinks black people CANT be racist”

I know what color this dude is. And I know what color houseshoes. And me being racist or acting racist is not the case. And I’m far from ignorant. As far as music and entertainment business is concerned, i already answered how the “White man is the devil” theory comes into play

I can expand on it though. If you look through american history, it shows that. So the statement holds true. I lived long enough to know. Can’t nobody brain-wash me and have me thinking otherwise. They already brain-washed our people’s minds, lied and enslaved us enough. I can give examples, but i’ll be here all day. Think about it.

Flix
Jun 11, 2009 7:36

*sigh* …..did anybody read what he stated on his blog, concerning this issue?…weird character…

oh, and I like white people too…

pianos
Jun 11, 2009 12:11

I think the thing to look at is, the record labels must really be hurting if they have to sign a guy like charles hamilton. He is one of the most shittiest new acts that i’ve heard as of late. Is it just me or when he spits it sounds as if he’s still going through puberty or something.

Connisaurus
Jun 11, 2009 12:48

Charles Hamilton is a cornball and one of the worst examples of underground Hip Hop around. If I were only listening to radio shit and was curious about underground Hip Hop I wouldn’t start with him. He’d probably deter my interest in the scene altogether. It’s cool that he’s showing love to a legend like Dilla but he needs to take a different approach. Using his name like that is extremely disrespectful.

Guccimonster
Jun 13, 2009 12:42

charles hamilton…sounds like a rapper from Dallas…the Tv show not the city.

mixtapetina
Jun 18, 2009 0:05

I had to post Hamilton’s blog comments on this topic – yikes

I spoke to Royce da 5′9″, who graphically explained the dedication the city has to Dilla. “N1ggas is loyal to Dilla.” He wouldn’t stop talking about how he understands what I was trying to do, but how others could misunderstood.

Not to say that I am a ghostbuster, but I do believe in being guided by spirits who have expertise in whatever field you are trying to excel in. Dilla virtually mastered the vintage sound. Prayer, meditation and belief in God allowed me to have a STRICTLY PARANORMAL relationship with Dilla, to master the album. Because of how deep the feeling was, how real the experience was, and his influence on my music, the right thing for me to do was to repay him.

D.Bravo
Jun 22, 2009 8:54

Charles is on that ooooooooooooooh weee mayne! I bet his shit was laced with Raid and P.c.P.

LevarMTM
Jun 24, 2009 7:47

SMH

minusbaby
Jul 1, 2009 2:01

acabb
Jul 21, 2009 18:52

charles hamilton: the michael scott of rap. i swear, like the dude from the office he is really that dumb and has no idea what hes going to say before he says it. its fucking hilarious. now his career wont even have a chance to crash and burn as badly as the sonic franchise. ohwell.

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