Share Misc, Real Life - Posted by FWMJ on Friday, April 24, 2009 12:53 - 40 Comments
FWMJ Mini Rant: Asher Roth and his Nappy Headed Hoes
Now, I don’t think this necessarily means he’s racist, more than it means he’s an idiot with inappropriate humour for the arena he’s chosen to pursue and perform in. He’s also a dumbass for deleting said offensive Tweets, like they didn’t happen, as if folks don’t have screen capture. Idiot.
But let’s stay focused, who actually likes this guy’s music? I mean, really.
I know a few people that claim to like it, but I figure that’s just being political and playing the game, and, you know, Asher doesn’t seem like a bad kid. Seems pretty easy to get along with to be honest.
But let’s stay focused. Who actually likes this guy’s music, that counts, you know, when it comes to the canon of hip hop. I’m sure he’ll get there if he keeps at it and keeps getting hook ups based on his management team calling in favours all over the industry, but I can’t see naan one person I know that likes rap ridin’ around with this guy’s music blarrin’ out the car with a screwface on like the first time you heard Mic Geronimo’s “Masta I.C.” (Remix) or something. In fact, I can’t think of a record that’s thrilled me less, with as many accolades at the moment than Asher’s project. I’d honestly put on a Audio Book or Snoop’s No Limit Records album before this.
I gave it a go, honestly, but man, snoresville. I can’t front, he can make words rhyme a little bit, but a) I’m not tryin’ to hear him rap about Teddy Ruxpin b) I don’t really like these C+ Danger Mouse/Danger Doom-y kind of beats when Danger Mouse does em. You can’t sample rock music and not make it sound lame/dry/boring. I understand we’ve got different generations of hip hop fans and listeners out there now, but I don’t know how anyone that’s been listening to rap since Run DMC and enjoyed rap music with some weight and gravity to it in the early to mid 90s can find this anything more than a vain, mediocre, novelty social experient with a hardcore marketing blizzard. Peep the god Dart Adams’ take in his blog post.
Dart Adams: “Dart’s Rant Of The Day: Hype, Lies & Corprate Co-signs”.
Now, Rick Ross album (you was right Kay, 9th Wonder, Jessie Maguire) that’s an unexpected kick in the neck. The beats on that album SLAM! He still a liar no doubt the beats crank!
P.S. Are we still mad at Eminem for callin’ his (black) ex-girlfriend when he was 16 (?) a bitch?
40 Comments
Raquel Wilson
1) Another industry-hyped…excuse me, another internet-hyped mediocre album.
2) I need more Don Cannon production in my life.
3) Where the hell was the Devin The Dude collab?
4) NEW PODCASTS?!?!?!
>>I don’t know how anyone that’s been listening to rap since Run DMC and enjoyed rap music with some weight and gravity to it in the early to mid 90s can find this anything more than a vain, mediocre, novelty social experient with a hardcore marketing blizzard.
I come from that era and I think Asher can spit. I don’t see why this is so hard grasp.
>>I gave it a go, honestly, but man, snoresville. I can’t front, he can make words rhyme a little bit, but a) I’m not tryin’ to hear him rap about Teddy Ruxpin b) I don’t really like these C+ Danger Mouse/Danger Doom-y kind of beats when Danger Mouse does em.
i agreed he can put words together okay, but so can 100,001 rappers. His songs are a bore (to me).
>>i agreed he can put words together okay, but so can 100,001 rappers.
Exactly. I don’t think Asher is necessarily whack…Just as a hip-hop fan who knows of a bunch of others that can rap circles around him and have a lot more talent–I can’t help but get a little mad when there is all this hype and energy towards this kid –whose paid NO DUES and has a machine behind him because kids at my college love his single.
.. And i’m NOT from “that era”.
bit
had to google him, found a youtube page filled with artists like cee-lo listening to his music with him on some emperor’s new clothes steez, each giving their own version of the glazed/stupefied look while roth nods his head in the zone like he just made the chronic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP2SgFIkhKE).
while i appreciate the latent humor of it all i can’t. i cannot. i’m going back to my cave :[
bose bourhino
asher’s CD is really smart business-wise. his team knows what market he needs to go for. does the “hood”, or the “block” need to like him? do blogs for “real” hiphop heads? doesn’t matter. you don’t make money selling to that demographic. you real make money and get real exposure when you get that MTV, suburban market. because otherwise, honestly how else are you gonna make it as a white rapper?
as far as skills go, kid can rhyme no doubt. and at least he’s rhyming about his real life and what he knows. rick ross is an actor. i mean officer rawse is entertaining, but in the way that thespians are entertaining.
i don’t disagree with you at all bose
Truthfully, I can’t seem to get into his music. I listened to a few songs & they weren’t wack, but they weren’t amazing either. He’s cool, just overrated IMO. Now to the shit he tweeted yesterday… SMH. I caught it live. Then he’s gonna call his PR & make his PR tweet “Just got the call that Asher Roth’s Twitter got hacked”… my ass. Anyways, someone send me some Asher Roth music that will blow my mind ???
Holla.
meh. im sure he was just joking.
if you listen to his joints…..thats all he does.
im sure he erased his “tweets” (or whatever you call it)
because alotta black peeps are quick to pull the race card
and make such a big deal outta the smallest things.
just like in this case.
now it wldnt be such a big issue if DOOM were to tweet “Nappyheadedhoes”
people would think its funny. double standards.
I can’t get into his music at all. So many other rappers who are WAYYYY better and make sense. This guy doesn’t make sense.
like my girl said on facebook:
“it was a blunder, but a racist one. If you think of race as a system of power (puts on social work activist hat) then this is an example of dudes like Asher don’t have to think twice about what they say whereas you and I think about it all the time – and yes we don’t jump at making jokes about whitey in their presence (unless we know them, know them). It may not be racism on purpose, but it’s still engrained in it nonetheless.”
but whatever, let’s focus on the music. his music is instant nyquil
Joy
asher roth, kid cudi, the cool kids, etc. all need to be flushed down a toilet.
…and yes! this is coming from an old, bitter chick who grew up in the 80’s. (not that anyone cares) i miss real music of all genres. i hate “hipster sh*t” because it typically = poseur (look it up) sh*t . i am tired of “frat boy” hip hop (i think someone else mentioned this, as well), i am tired of hair gel, i am tired of mohawks (as soon as you see fluff daddy doing it, you should stop immediately), i am tired of faux-rock enthusiasts who can only name bands, but none of their songs, and i am tired of “hood nookas” (as they refer to themselves) and all of their queer arse dancing. you are not “hood” if you are a dude who drops down low and sweeps the floor with it! if a dude can “roll” harder than a chick, then he is a chick! …and please save the eyeliner for robert smith and david bowie! i am tired of corny people talking about unrealistic, or just plain lame, crap.
how many more songs can be made about how people get drunk and high, sex up disease-infested strangers, then do it all over again the next night? i don’t care if you’re in miami, b*tch! …and stoners are only lonely when they don’t put 5 on it!
unfortunately, asher roth’s comments are just par for the course. everything is a joke to people nowadays because a lot of people thrive on being uneducated. no one wants to learn anything. they only want to party. happiness in slavery…
sorry for the rant…
i know that most of my comments were totally unrelated to your post.
LowBallz
funny comment . i hang out with nappy headed hoes. and what!
I couldn’t have put it better myself. I have no idea what would make him even say that. The crazy thing is that he just started following me on twitter w/o me even following him first. I agree that his music is ok not great and that he is just very marketable so that’s why he’s got some buzz. I am disappointed that I actually might have to listen to him at The Roots Picnic now.
-ADS
VIDEOKINGnotwithstanding(fill in the blank)
I recommend “lark on my go-kart”, and “his dream”…………………………. ummmm thats about………….. it. and he was reluctant i listened to the album
mike
serious douch wagon.
in other news.. site looks sweet!
JayBreez
He did that because he wanted people to talk about him before his album drops .. imo he doesn’t need that but i might be wrong ..
My history with hip-hop goes back to fiending for a big piece of cardboard so I could get the breakdancing in. I was very skeptical about Asher Roth (or any other new artist who gets overhyped, mentioned etc). After listening to as much material as I could, I recognize the lyrical talent in general although many of the the songs are not my thing. However, about 1/3 of them I like. Does his music get me as hyped as Dilated Peoples, Little Brother, Skyzoo or Diamond District? No. Asher is not one of these lame lyricists out there. Let’s keep all this rap music in perspective.
mavrek
Dude isn’t anything new matter of fact his shit is standard, I personally can’t give accoades to a mcee for just being able to put words together. It takes more to be a dope mcee or at least it should and for the. Last 10 yeras or so hip hop or entertainment period has become a haven for medicros, people seem to be impressed by music that dosnt seem to have much thought process behind…. I’m just saying is it wrong to haave standards?
jdub
i’m sorry, but if you feel the ross album’s beats SLAM, you need to check yourself. that album is waaaaaaaaaaaaaack through and through. i’m 30 years old, grew up listening to the classics, and consider myself to be a bit of a hip-hop snob. i copped the asher album, both because of the (internet) hype and because he’s from my home town. it’s not that bad, and if we are comparing the two, it far exceeds that ross nonsense. i don’t understand why you so mad? he’s got some raw talent and a few of those beats are bangers. let’s give this kid some time and see where he ends up.
jdub, you’re an idiot. dismiss yourself. ross is a clown, but the music on his shit takes a green watery baby shit ALL over the beats on asher’s album. and i know 30 rappers that would eat asher alive, so i aint givin him the time of day, much less time to develop to even remotely live up to the hype. go head butt a brick wall and have a cup of coma. RWAR!
I haven’t checked asher roths album yet… no interest. but now im going to have to so i can decide whether i have the right to shit on his work or not
FWMJ, I coudn’t agree with you more, I really tried to give this dude the benefit of the doubt but realized that his Muzak was just not for me. I’ll leave his music and career to the college frats and keep searching for real music elsewhere. The title of the album alone should’ve warned me that I was going to hate the whole concept . . . next time I’ll listen to my gut and won’t believe the hype.
his gimmick is college party syndrome. if i wanted to listen to that shit id put on some louie logic. at least logic had substance and intelligence. Asher Roth is Corporate America doing its job, and he prolly doesnt even know it.
The Pot Belly Melancholic
Fuck That Cracker.
why he gotta be all that though?
jdub
dissed by a dude who posts drake tracks on his site.
“La Di Da” is a good song.. but thats really the only one I enjoyed listening to…
JDub beats the guy who scanned the Nas article for 2009 “Douche Of the Year”!
jdub: you mean a drake & tanya morgan track? what up Heinz!
The Pot Belly Melancholic
Fuck That Cracker Asher Roth. If You Like That Cracker, Fuck You Too.
If You Know That Bitch Ass Cracker Tell Him I Said Fuck You.
mavrek
That’s fucking hilarious. Cracker and fuck just happens to be 2 of my favorite words.
d25
Asher is just corny to me. I’d rather pick The Cool Kids over Mr. Roth…
I can’t remember the last time I saw something like that…bookmark ftw =)
miko
I just don’t find Asher Roth to be a talented individual. I don’t understand how he qualifies as talented.
There are people out there – people who work for record companies who know movers and shakers, industry reps, talking heads, etc – who ACTUALLY THINK that “there is nothing better out right now” than Asher Roth. The other day Mr. Diseducation challenged me to come up with anything in hip-hop that is “better than Asher right now” because apparently, Asher is all there is. I was completely scandalized…for I would rather listen to Mims for 24 hours straight than hear “College” again.
Give me a break!!!
miko
PS
when “white and male and entitled” is your position on the board, you feel comfortable “trying on” other cultural caps like hip-hop, while not appreciating the struggle from which the specific cultural object came. so you can let shit like “nappy headed hos” fall out your mouth and not think twice of it. that is the power of the white normative gaze.
sam
rap is shit. twitter is shit. i’m surprised that people who seem almost as bitter as i am are reading about awful gimmick-rap on a worthless website full of motherfuckers typing “lol” and shit like that. whoever is behind all of this is winning.. don’t you see?
maybe when you’re at that next dark point in your life that has you browsing twitter and looking at pages of rappers that you hate for something to get mad about.. you’ll remember my words and instead of making a blog about it, x out the twitter window and go do something that makes you feel happy.
ignore shit that sucks.. like this comment.. ignore it if you don’t like it. more people will read my comment if you write a novel about it.
Felix
>>jdub, you’re an idiot. dismiss yourself. ross is a clown, but the music on his shit takes a green watery baby shit ALL over the beats on asher’s album. and i know 30 rappers that would eat asher alive, so i aint givin him the time of day, much less time to develop to even remotely live up to the hype. go head butt a brick wall and have a cup of coma. RWAR!
So basically what you’re saying is that asher is the 31th most talented rapper in the world? mmm… that’s actually pretty good.
nice try Felix, but no.
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